sorry, forgot to say it's ridiculously long, might take several sittings... and of course I guess lots of you have already done your research, but it is a fun tongue in cheek effort though, I couldn't stop laughing...
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Not for Believers - could be hard to swallow
by The Marvster inwell now that i'm a confirmed apostate (a couple of the forum posters confirmed this today), gosh hearing myself say that is a bit frightening.... how the hell did i get to this place, well thanks to anonymity, my 'still in' family don't know this yet... .
after a whole day of watching various people describe their differences with creationist ideas, i'm finally watching this one.... it's tongue in cheek and is hilarious to watch....(this is not meant to mock people's belief in god as such, but more to do with how creationist speculation seems to go against openly available data).
i noticed that some of the arguments made by kent hovind, a creationist evangelist, smells very much like stuff i learned in 'life how did it get here by evolution or creation', and in other publications trying to explain why some phenomena in the solar system etc points to the precision in the universe = there must have been a divine hand... i assume he didn't get the information from jw's, so i wonder who jw's were getting their info from.... well thanks to sites like jwfacts, it's as clear as day anyway please don't watch if you're not ready to take in the copious amounts of data expressed to counter creationist claims... i'm only 20 minutes in and it's pretty devastating to creationist argument, the author of the video encourages each watcher to go do the math themselves where possible, stating even a high school education will give you enough tools to check out the figures and see if they add up.... (oops, that might be a problem for your die hard jw).
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Not for Believers - could be hard to swallow
by The Marvster inwell now that i'm a confirmed apostate (a couple of the forum posters confirmed this today), gosh hearing myself say that is a bit frightening.... how the hell did i get to this place, well thanks to anonymity, my 'still in' family don't know this yet... .
after a whole day of watching various people describe their differences with creationist ideas, i'm finally watching this one.... it's tongue in cheek and is hilarious to watch....(this is not meant to mock people's belief in god as such, but more to do with how creationist speculation seems to go against openly available data).
i noticed that some of the arguments made by kent hovind, a creationist evangelist, smells very much like stuff i learned in 'life how did it get here by evolution or creation', and in other publications trying to explain why some phenomena in the solar system etc points to the precision in the universe = there must have been a divine hand... i assume he didn't get the information from jw's, so i wonder who jw's were getting their info from.... well thanks to sites like jwfacts, it's as clear as day anyway please don't watch if you're not ready to take in the copious amounts of data expressed to counter creationist claims... i'm only 20 minutes in and it's pretty devastating to creationist argument, the author of the video encourages each watcher to go do the math themselves where possible, stating even a high school education will give you enough tools to check out the figures and see if they add up.... (oops, that might be a problem for your die hard jw).
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The Marvster
Well now that I'm a confirmed APOSTATE (a couple of the forum posters confirmed this today), gosh hearing myself say that is a bit frightening.... how the hell did I get to this place, well thanks to anonymity, my 'still in' family don't know this yet...
after a whole day of watching various people describe their differences with creationist ideas, I'm finally watching this one.... it's tongue in cheek and is hilarious to watch....(this is not meant to mock people's belief in god as such, but more to do with how creationist speculation seems to go against openly available data)
I noticed that some of the arguments made by Kent Hovind, a creationist evangelist, smells very much like stuff I learned in 'Life how did it get here by evolution or creation', and in other publications trying to explain why some phenomena in the solar system etc points to the precision in the universe = there must have been a Divine hand... I assume he didn't get the information from JW's, so I wonder who JW's were getting their info from.... well thanks to sites like JWfacts, it's as clear as day anyway please don't watch if you're not ready to take in the copious amounts of data expressed to counter creationist claims... I'm only 20 minutes in and it's pretty devastating to creationist argument, the author of the video encourages each watcher to go do the math themselves where possible, stating even a high school education will give you enough tools to check out the figures and see if they add up.... (oops, that might be a problem for your die hard JW)
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Christopher Hitchens Vs Armageddon
by The Marvster ini've just spent a big part of today watching interviews, debates etc with richard dawkins.
when i was a jw i used to hate this man with all my energy, i looked on him as the devil's offspring, he represented an idea that totally terrified me.
today i found myself saying i love the man.
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The Marvster
thanks Saintbertholdt...
will check it out, there were a few clips from it on the interview I watched... I think I'll end up watching these guys for most of the rest of my Saturday evening.
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Christopher Hitchens Vs Armageddon
by The Marvster ini've just spent a big part of today watching interviews, debates etc with richard dawkins.
when i was a jw i used to hate this man with all my energy, i looked on him as the devil's offspring, he represented an idea that totally terrified me.
today i found myself saying i love the man.
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Clarity..
yep, I've only seen little bits, and found his thinking 'devastating' when he analyses bible logic etc... but OMG, glad I didn't ever meet someone like that when I used to do JW recruiting... My faith would have probably ended that very day...
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Christopher Hitchens Vs Armageddon
by The Marvster ini've just spent a big part of today watching interviews, debates etc with richard dawkins.
when i was a jw i used to hate this man with all my energy, i looked on him as the devil's offspring, he represented an idea that totally terrified me.
today i found myself saying i love the man.
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The Marvster
Shoot, I'm done for.. damn it... lol... I was hoping there was still some sheep in me (erm, not the other way around of course)
But now I love them both. Carl Sagan in a sexual way (just kidding)
Lol, I forgot to mention that my 'love' for Dawkins is 'as a friend'... today was the final straw when I found out that while he was a young researcher, the mathematics was slowing him down so he started to use the then 'only computer' at Oxford University... he then taught himself programming language using zero's and 1's so he could make the computer do his calculations, and then ended up 'teaching' his fellow scientists the programming language.... my respect for him suddenly went through the roof... this guy is the man's man for sure...
yeah Hitchens definitely seems arrogant at times and definitely polemic... I recon you would have won the fist fight, he was pretty out of shape in a couple of the vids i watched... LOl
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Christopher Hitchens Vs Armageddon
by The Marvster ini've just spent a big part of today watching interviews, debates etc with richard dawkins.
when i was a jw i used to hate this man with all my energy, i looked on him as the devil's offspring, he represented an idea that totally terrified me.
today i found myself saying i love the man.
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The Marvster
By the way,
something that has been 'bothering' me lately is the question; 'am I technically an APOSTATE' now I'm sharing these ideas with people on this forum?
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Christopher Hitchens Vs Armageddon
by The Marvster ini've just spent a big part of today watching interviews, debates etc with richard dawkins.
when i was a jw i used to hate this man with all my energy, i looked on him as the devil's offspring, he represented an idea that totally terrified me.
today i found myself saying i love the man.
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The Marvster
I've just spent a big part of today watching interviews, debates etc with Richard Dawkins. When I was a JW I used to hate this man with all my energy, I looked on him as the devil's offspring, he represented an idea that totally terrified me.
today I found myself saying I love the man. Anyway a Richard Dawkins video was linked to Christopher Hitchens videos and I found this one particularly interesting. He was basically talking about how he detests the whole attitude in certain religions, i.e., that longing for god's great day to come when billions will be destroyed while the faithful stand by gleefully watching, awaiting their salvation to eternal bliss, while 99.99% of mankind experience gruesome divine execution.
This is a subject often mentioned on this forum so thought I'd post this vid (of course it might be 'very' old news already seen by many, if so, sorry)
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Had any weird dreams recently?
by LoveUniHateExams inso, i'll go first.. i dreamt last night that i was still at uni, i said goodbye to one of my lecturers.
then ulrika jonsson (former weather girl, shooting stars captain, and swedish nymphomaniac) gave me a lift home in her car - wtf?!
she kept trying to change the cd whilst trying to drive (reaching on the floor, looking for a cd).
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The Marvster
Oh and I used the 'hold your nose and try to breathe through it' test when I wanted to check it was a dream....
the first time that worked, lol, I was flabberghasted, and of course the dream crumbled as I got too excited, I woke up a few seconds later... lol
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Had any weird dreams recently?
by LoveUniHateExams inso, i'll go first.. i dreamt last night that i was still at uni, i said goodbye to one of my lecturers.
then ulrika jonsson (former weather girl, shooting stars captain, and swedish nymphomaniac) gave me a lift home in her car - wtf?!
she kept trying to change the cd whilst trying to drive (reaching on the floor, looking for a cd).
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The Marvster
Stuffwotifink
Yeah that is the first time I experienced pushing the hand through the glass... no idea why I tried this when lucid. Re: flinging myself through glass windows, this is a habit after getting lucid in one nightmare and escaping the building in a panic by jumping through the window, hoping I would awaken, it worked. I think it's just a habit now that I do without thinking when lucidly aware.
I think most people think themselves incapable of doing this stuff, total BS, anybody can, it's just finding a way I guess, and some people are inclinde to develop the ability more easily, who knows why? I wish they had a lucid dreaming pill, I would definitely pay... I think I have one of Steven Le Berge's books or some other well versed lucid dreamer...
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Had any weird dreams recently?
by LoveUniHateExams inso, i'll go first.. i dreamt last night that i was still at uni, i said goodbye to one of my lecturers.
then ulrika jonsson (former weather girl, shooting stars captain, and swedish nymphomaniac) gave me a lift home in her car - wtf?!
she kept trying to change the cd whilst trying to drive (reaching on the floor, looking for a cd).
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The Marvster
Great post, Loveunihateexams....
for some odd reason I've had about 5 lucid dreams in the past month, the most recent was the craziest..
I'm walking down the street and suddenly there's a cobweb blocking me, so I pull it out of my way, then another appears, then more and more until I try to charge through them all and they start to wrap around my body, pulling me to the floor.... well after fighting the damn things off i get up and throw the bundle of 'web stuff' away, and just flies up in the air and sticks to a wall high up on a near building and I immediately think, 'this is a dream, I'm dreaming'... so I start trying to construct things, I wish a building into existence and it appears, I turn the corner and wish another scene and it appears. then I notice my eyes are shutting and I think, damn, I'm losing it, I'm about to lose lucidity. then I awaken in bed, but I don't trust it, so I do an experiment and realise it's a 'false' awakening and i'm still dreaming... so I take my hand and push it through the glass of the window (I'm on the first floor of a house) and it softly goes through the glass, like entering another dimension, no smash, no pain... i then hurl myself through the glass smashing it and land on the pavement below, but then I wake up in bed again, so redo do the experiement, ' it's still a dream', put my hand through the glass 'again', it goes through softly again, throw myself out the window through the glass again, land on the pavement below, unhurt. Find myself next to a Barkley's Bank, push my hand through the glass door, goes through softly, push my whole leg through, same thing, and yep, you guessed it... decide to violently fling my body through the glass door of the bank and land on the carpet inside... then finally I awaken.. for real... wow, did I immediately grab pen and paper for that one, it was one of my faves....